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Wealth Distribution among the Six Californias

An Obvious implication of splitting the state along these lines is that the "rich areas" will be able to concentrate their wealth into their own public services without supporting the "poor states".  What is the approximate revenue projections for the different areas and what will be the financial "fall-out" on the public services in portions of the state that may see a sudden revenue drop?

Six Californias responds: Brian, thanks for your question. Although the Six Californias campaign has been doing research into how the proposal will address California's problems, we have not yet examined the question you've raised. It is difficult to project the future financials of the six new states as each state will likely impose or repeal policies that impact the overall economics of the region. It's important to note that comparing states on the basis of per-capita income is only one part of the picture, and that the newly created states would have new opportunities to raise the revenue necessary to provide public services.

What innovative ways could the six Californias use to raise money and cut government expenses?

Would California Universities Have To Change Their Names?

This is trivial to say the least, but would some universities in the new 6 states of California need to change their names?  UCLA to UWCLA? USC to UWC (even though they're a private university, they might want to avoid confusion)? UC Davis to UCC Davis? Lives aren't exactly hanging in the balance, but, as a college football fan, that would be a little weird... 

Six Californias Responds: Thanks for your question Troy. There is no reason that any universities would be obligated to change their names, and it is possible that the new states would elect to keep the UC system together to serve the six new states. At the same time, colleges could choose to change their names to represent their identities in these new states. 

What do you think? Should any colleges and universities adopt new names when Six Californias goes through?

How were populations and land areas considered for state boundaries?

Populations of the 6 proposed states have been published, but land sizes have not.  Jefferson would be the smallest population-wise (<25% of next smallest state), but would have the second largest piece of land (see this table for comparisons).  Were boundary lines generated based on culture and common reference (Jefferson wants to be libertarian, Central CA is already referred to as Central Valley, etc)?  If so, is free market expected to fill the gap between resource needs? (ie Jefferson has a lot of fresh water to sell to LA, who has a lot of money to pay for it to send Jeffersonian kids to school)?  I ask because the population density variations seem to go against the goal of giving each current Californian a stronger voting voice (which would lead to all six Californias being of equal population). 

Six Californias responds: Thanks for your question Jason. The table you created is very informative; thank you for sharing it. The six states emerged as natural regions during the extensive research process before writing the initiative. It's true that the new states will neither be the same size nor have the same population, but that's also true for the 50 states that already exist. The populations of the new states will fluctuate, but the lines were drawn based on various statistics including population, demographics, value systems, prominent industries, income levels, water issues, geography, and other considerations.

The state lines respect the existing county lines in order to maintain our existing local governments without disruption, and any other approach to dividing the state would create additional complications. This arrangement will also allow counties to join an adjacent state if the residents of the county would rather associate with a different state. For more details, you can find the Cal Facts 2013 report from the Legislative Analyst’s Office report here

Do you identify with the state your county will be located in? Which of the six new states would you like to call home?

What happens with the State Water Project?

How do you propose splitting up the State Water Project?

Six Californias responds: Thanks for your question Erin. The California State Water Project (a water storage and delivery system of reservoirs, aqueducts, powerplants and pumping plants) would be considered an asset or liability that would be divided by the appointed Board of Commissioners. They will determine a solution that will meet the needs of all residents. For example, they may draft a state compact for continued use of the existing system, or they may explore new methods such as desalinization or water recycling.
How would you address water supply in the new states?

How much of California's consititution and propositions will be carried over to the new states?

Can the new state enact a constitution and eliminate the Prop 13 property tax changes immediately, as one example? or eliminate agencies like CARB (CA Air Resources Board)? or Insurance Commissioner? or Prop 65? Would the new state have to authorize a PG&E or could it take over energy production/transmission or could it define a new method of competitive energy delivery?

Six Californias responds: Thanks for your question Warren. After the Six Californias measure is approved by the voters, a 24-member Board of Commissioners will be created to facilitate the transformation from one California to Six Californias. This will create an opportunity for the people living in these states to hold their own constitutional conventions and create governments fashioned after their needs and interests. What would you want to include in your state's constitution?

what will happen with all of the prisoners?

How will the population be separated? Will each individual state lay claim to their prisoner, and is it worth having each individual state come up with his own state prison laws?

Six Californias Responds: Thanks for raising this issue Marcus. After the voters approve the Six Californias initiative, a 24-member Board of Commissioners will be created to work out how best to manage the responsibility of incarcerating prisoners and establishing appropriate procedures for their release after they have served their sentences.

How do you think the new states should manage the prison population?


Will any of the six new states legalize marijuana?

Do you think it is possible we could help California's problem with education, business, job growth, and even a moral boost in California. If we legalize marijuana, I mean just look at what happened in Colorado. I say we expand all options before we devide California. After all United we stand!

Six Californias responds: Thanks Marcus, even though marijuana remains banned under federal law, Colorado and Washington have voted to make marijuana legal for adults. While the federal government has not interfered in allowing these states to legally allow marijuana sales, that could change in the future. Any of the six states created by Six Californias could follow the example set by Colorado and Washington, assuming the federal government doesn't change its position.

In 2010, California voted on Proposition 19, a proposal to decriminalize marijuana. Although only 46.5% of people voted for decriminalization, the measure was quite popular in some parts of the state

When we have Six Californias, do you think your state will legalize marijuana?

What happens to state and UC pensions?

Will current retirees continue to receive their retirement incomes or will elderly former state and UC workers, now retired, be cut loose to fend for themselves?

Six Californias Responds: Alice, thanks for bringing up this important question. After the Six Californias proposition passes there will be a 24-member Board of Commissioners created to "adjust the property and financial affairs between the State of California and the newly created states." If these commissioners are unable to find an amenable solution together then these liabilities would be divided up based on each new state's population (More details can be found here). 

How would you like to see the state pensions and the UC system set up within Six Californias?

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