The Superiority of the Six Californias Proposal Over the Calexit Effort

The Calexit effort has almost no chance of succeeding for the following reasons. California has one of the biggest economies in the world and any effort to secede will require both the approval of the California legislature as well as the US Congress. The latter will never agree to part with the BIG Calfifornia CASH COW. And the democrats at the state level in California will not likely  be inclined to relinquish future chances of governing the US.

The Six California proposal is superior because it gives liberals their areas(states) and does the same for conservatives. Having smaller states will allow for better and more manageable governance. California in its present configuration is simply too big and too DIVERSE to be governed EFFECTIVELY from Sacramento.



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  • Eric Bauer
    commented 2017-03-28 16:11:23 -0700
    I believe I see what you are getting at Harry. For me though I look at the time, energy, and $$$ factors with ballot initiatives. If as you say, LA and SF have a better chance of seceding if they break off from the red parts of the state, then it would indeed make a lot more sense for the aforementioned reasons to simply proceed with the six state solution first. The six staters clearly have no interest in secession. They simply want a model(new state) that affords them better representation. However, there would be factions within those states, particularly the more liberal ones, that would still desire secession, and there desires could then be better addressed post-six state creation.
  • Harry Ferrari
    commented 2017-03-28 07:23:44 -0700
    You could also work with the secession movement to advance the six states solution. LA and SF have a better chance of seceding if they break off the red parts of the state. I think a ballot initiative to stay in the union would allow you to collect the emails of millions of voters who you can then explain the six states solution to. I am talking about ways to advance the cause.
  • Harry Ferrari
    commented 2017-03-27 17:19:54 -0700
    Eric, I agree with you. I am just saying to use the secession movement to get people thinking about the six state solution. By demanding the right to stay in the union. The talk about secession is there, use that as a reason to get a ballot initiative to allow counties to stay in the union. Wouldn’t you like to go to congress with a successful ballot initiative saying we want to stay in the union? And oh by the way, we already have the solution, the six state solution.
  • Eric Bauer
    commented 2017-03-27 16:47:26 -0700
    Again, Harry, California will never be able to secede for the simple reason that it would require Congressional approval which will not happen, even with a Republican controlled Congress. California has too much wealth and will never be allowed to depart with that wealth. Given that, the next best option is to pursue the Six California plan which has a much better chance of succeeding with Congress. There is no point in pursuing secession or even discussing it if there is no chance of it happening. It’s a waste of both time and energy and both of those things could be better spent elsewhere, especially in pursuing the six California plan. As the song says, “You can’t always get what you want, but you get what you need.”
  • Harry Ferrari
    commented 2017-03-27 08:47:38 -0700
    You can use the secession movement to advance the Six Californias movement. Put up a ballot initiative that says that if CA votes to exit the union that each county can petition the US congress to remain in the union. That would likely pass and people would start thinking in the context of voting to split up CA.
  • Eric Bauer
    commented 2017-03-20 18:04:39 -0700
    I’d like to believe you, Julienna , when you you say there won’t be wars and corruption if California secedes. Unfortunately if secession alone occurs, there will be a very big chance of war as many different FACTIONS will be vying to control California’s vast economic wealth. There will be too much at stake nationally and globally for TPTB to let California simply walk away. Dividing the state into 6 pieces though would definitely minimize the chances of some faction(s) making a big power play for California as a whole.
  • Eric Bauer
    commented 2017-03-20 17:57:50 -0700
    Ephiphany, it is obvious from your comment that you are not fond of conservatives. That said, would you rather have them living in the same state as you where they would have a chance of winning the governorship and perhaps one or both legislatures or would you rather have them in another state where they can’t influence policy in your state. Liberals simply don’t control the bulk of the real estate in the US. That is a political REALITY which must be faced.
  • Epiphany Pakalolo
    commented 2017-03-15 01:05:25 -0700
    Every not in that little strip of gold is a red state. We’d be fuckin surrounded. Bad idea.
  • Julieanna Thomson
    commented 2017-03-14 18:52:33 -0700
    Maybe this should be done, WHILE seceding. I’m still for secession… I’m getting sick and tired of feeling the trickle-down of WARS and CORRUPTION for the U.S.A. Gov’t. With California Nation, there won’t be wars and little corruption compared to the clowns in D.C.!!
  • Eric Bauer
    published this page in Discussion 2017-02-03 15:12:11 -0800

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